Tuesday, January 22, 2008

Great Things Come in Threes







36 comments:

luluca said...

Hello. I would like to suggest that we possible look for users by country of origin. I am wondering how many Brazilians are like me also by Polyvore. Perhaps you could post here the statistics of users by country. Is that this is a very curious mine, may even be not important thing, but costs nothing ask, right? :)

hugs from lulucool
http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/profile?id=30959

Evangeline said...

Hey AGain! I was just wondering is there is any way that you can search users in the search bar. Every time i go to search a user all i get is sets and items. Please Help! Thanks a load :)

Sarah said...

Hi Luluca, that's a great suggestion, we'll try to see if we can dig up that data for an upcoming post :-) Hi Evangeline - username searches are coming soon! Sorry to make you wait, but we're hoping to implement that in the next few months!

Claudeia said...

I agree with Luluca! That would be great!!!
Also, you may have flags from every country becouse you have a limited number of country. My country (Chile) isn't there, and I love to have my country's flag in my profile.

miznyc said...

oh my goodness. This site is too too much fun.

n i l e e y said...

you just inspired me to create such a set! hope you like it!

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/set?id=678509

pasha said...
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pasha said...

Claudeia: About Chile missing from the country list -- we had a bug in the profile page. It is fixed now... thanks for reporting it.

luluca said...

hi Sarah, thanks for pay attention at my suggest ;)) it´s so cool wen you say something and someone is really listen! hugs.

(lulucool at Polyvore: http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/profile?id=30959)

tugbacen said...

Can you put a rotate option on canvas actions? It would be perfect i guess...I reaaly need it, I think greater sets would come up with this new action... Thanks!!!

artandghosts said...

why are you using my work, without permission, for people to downlod, on your polyvore site?

please remove them.

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/thing?id=662244

archiac said...

polyvore and its users are violating copyright laws by stealing photos from other sites and artists without permission to use them.

kittenspawn said...

This Site steals work by artists from other websites without their permission.


Do Not Use It.

Skiddoo said...

I would like to direct the owners and users of Polyvore to some really heated discussions on Etsy.com. Please pay attention to what the owners of the images and artwork and the creators of many items have to say about your usage here, and take it to heart. You might also consider maybe posting a reply of some kind.

It's really clear that it's NOT okay with many, many of the people whose copyrighted images you're using, and you're opening yourself up for some battles with Big Names as well.

http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5438619

http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5438055

Jewelry by Tara said...

What kind of site uses images of artists, without their permission, and no credit to them? Myself, along with 100's of Etsy shops, have had our designs added to your site. If I hadn't come across a forum thread, I would have never known. Just saying the pics are from Etsy, is not enough. We are all individual sellers, and you should contact each and every one of us.

Shame on this site:(

NinnerFish said...

Anyone who puts images of an artist's work on this website without the express consent of that artist is guilty of copyright infringement and can be prosecuted accordingly.

Talea//Designs said...

all of these etsy users are 100% right...this website has no right to use their images of their artwork. terrible.

RunzwithScissors said...

wow. and I was just going to suggest making the title of this blog gramatically correct by deleting the extraneous, incorrect, apostrophe in the plural noun, "Threes".

But what the previous posters said -- give proper atttribution and linkage to the images, if you want to display them here.

Marissa Fischer said...

Polyvore is STEALING the work of many talented artist. Many of these pictures are taken WITHOUT PERMISSION from ETSY. Polyvore has no right to use these images. How can you not even give credit to the artists and you're letting people download the images!? Rediculous why don't you just borrow CD's from the library and post all the songs for free download as well?

I don't even thing my images have been stolen, I'm just horrified that someone is doing this.

Ali J said...

My images have been stolen. My copyright has been violated and I guarantee you that I WILL be in contact with my lawyers! Whilst most of my works attribute directly back to me they have been abused and mutilated - which is definitely a BREACH of my copyright.

I'm furious that a site like this would condone such an action.

Ashley said...

Just another angry Etsy.com user here wondering why Polyvore allows it's users to use other peoples images without permission. What you are doing is wrong on so many unbelievable levels and I hope you get this under control before the lawyers get to you.

Valorie said...

This really is terrible... I've never heard of this site until it was pointed out on an Etsy thread that you were stealing copyrighted images and condoning their usage and manipulation.

As an artist who relies on my work as my sole source of income, this site is an abomination. As the artist, I have the right to take and post my images online. NO ONE has the right to take those images and use them in any way that I do not expressly give them permission for. Now, instead of painting tonight, I have to scour this site to make sure my livelihood isn't being jeopardized by blatant copyright infringement.

redhotjezebel said...

Polyvore is STEALING images from Etsy sellers and condoning their users behavior in doing the same. This is NOT OKAY. Taking someone's photos from another internet site is THEFT of copyrighted material and intellectual property.

This is DEPLORABLE BEHAVIOR.

It is highly advisable to disable this feature immediately and remove ALL copyrighted property from this webserver.

Chani said...

Just hold on!! Every single item is linked back exactly to the place where it's from (just click on it, even though it says only "Etsy.com") and it's the best free advertising you could ever have!! I know, I have my own crafting shop and there are a lot of customers who come from Polyvore. If ever the Polyvore sets are published outside this site, they are linked back to it and so also to the Etsy site.

redhotjezebel said...

Chani - "every single item" is NOT linked back to the seller - they might be linked back to etsy.com, but not the seller/creator of the item. If there ARE, they are very few, and very far between. Not to mention - they were taken WITHOUT permission, regardless of whether or not there is a linkback.

It is NOT the "best free advertising" in any way whatsoever. I'm glad you seem to have had some positive experience from Polyvore because you have some craft shop; talk to the etsy sellers whose COPYRIGHTED photos have been stolen and/or manipulated without their permission (and without ANY link back to their etsy shop). Sorry to disappoint, but it's just not so.

Images are being removed even as we speak by Polyvore admin for copyright infringement.

Chani said...

I did a popular items search for Etsy and every single item was liked back to it's proper page. The linking is done automatically when items are added and cannot be manipulated. Just click where it says "etsy.com", and you get on the page where the item is sold.

GoToGreatPanes.com said...

chani--That would be fine with me if that was always the case--I understand how it could be a good tool, but many artists have an objection to any use at all UNLESS they were contacted for permission before the items were added to polyvore. It is a copyright violation without permission.

Unfortunately many polyvore images were uploaded without permission and with a webpage address that was based on "images.etsy.com". None of those images are traceable to the seller who owns them. The page that should have been linked to would be where the item was actually for sale, where you could have seen the piece as the artist presented it.

There were 22 pages of items with the images.etsy.com address when I did a search. The search results for those items are now gone, but the items themselves were not removed yet and you can still see those images.etsy.com links in the "sets" results if you'd like to give it a try. I understand the polyvore owners are looking in to the issue.

Even with permission, I bet many of the art sellers would revoke their permission after seeing what has happened to their work on the site. I can see how it really works for fashion and the like, but many pieces of artwork have been demolished in the editing that goes on, and that is just crushing for the artist to see.

Ali J said...

Well the majority of my images were manipulated beyond their original views and concepts - and that IS copyright. Only I, as the copyright holder is entitled to alter the images. Not even a publisher - that I've signed a contract with has permission!!

Oh, not to mention those who removed watermarks off of images - that results BY LAW in a fine of $2000 so there will be plenty of people finding themselves to be a stick in the mud over the next few days.

flipper2388 said...

I think that COOPERATING (in a polite manner at that) with Polyvore is a much better way to get things solved than attacking through blog comments.
And, many of these users are at the age of 13. If you were to prosecute them for copyright, I fail to see what that would prove. They're innocent teens (barely even teens, in fact).
I understand the principle of the argument, but I disagree with the way it is being carried out. Some of the comments from the Etsy users are making them look malicious, rather than concerned about the real issue.

GoToGreatPanes.com said...

Feel free to cooperate politely with those who are enabling the theft of *your* goods.

Just because you can be as young as 13 and join a site does not mean that this site should not follow the laws that are intended for *everyone*. The site needs to find a way to minimize the theft going, that would be a good way avoid heated messages on the blog.

If the members don't read the rules/understand copyright law, but they do read the blog, maybe they are finally being educated about fact that many of the photos they see are being used illegally. They have been stolen from the artists.

Jewelry by Tara said...

Chani, these images DO NOT link back to the artists. Etsy is a huge site, w/over 100,000 shops. Each person there is an individual, and you are not only missing the point here, but violating them all:(

archiac said...

the whole point is, that users of the copyrighted material DID NOT ASK PERMISSION FOR USE from the owners of the copyrighted material.

claiming that there are viable links DOES NOT justify their theft.

archiac said...

1 comments:

pasha said...

Hi,

This is Pasha, one of the people running Polyvore.

I just wanted to point out that Polyvore is not about stealing copyrighted images.

Polyvore is an online tool/community for creating collages made from images sourced on the web. All the images are saved by individual members and they always link back to the original source. We believe that this can be an extra source of exposure for these items.

Having said that, we do comply with the DMCA and respond to notices of copyright infringement.
January 27, 2008 11:07 PM
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polyvore and the people who use it have not ask PERMISSION to use images and photos from individual artist on etsy.com. those images were stolen from that site. polyvore does not adhere to the DMCA. and most have no viable link back to the artists.

the ironic thing is, most artists on etsy would probably grant permission for use, if only you should ask.

Jewelry by Tara said...

Saying that these images are advertising, and link back to the individual artists here, is like saying Google, links us back to your site directly, without an address. Etsy is like our landlord, we just rent space, but our businesses are all individual. It does us absolutely no good as artists to be linked back to Etsy images:( You will never find our work this way. Plus, it is degrading to a lot of Etsians, that people are moving their work around, and changing it. Removing the watermarks is such a blatant copyright infringement, how can you justify this? It's laughable!

In the long run it won't matter, there is no way your site will get away with this. It would be better to admit wrong doing now, then end up paying legal fees later.

flipper2388 said...

Yes, but my main point, is that COOPERATION will work. Cooperate with Polyvore- I am not saying to let them use your images and frankly, I am not into the whole "who owns them" right now. I am simply saying that posting comments on a blog degrading Polyvore are not getting anyone anywhere. I'm saying that instead of posting on this blog, it would be better to contact the owners of Polyvore through the website's help section. They respond to queries. And the two groups of people- those upset with copyright issues and Polyvore- can work together to come to a quick and decisive solution, whether that solution involve never allowing images found on the Etsy domain to be used on Polyvore or what not.
COOPERATE with Polyvore, not attack them or their users.
I am not trying to insult or attack anyone, nor am I agreeing or disagreeing in the end. I clearly understand the points made, and they are valid; I am not intellectually deprived. I am just saying that the effort put into these arguments to/against Polyvore would be put to better use in a effort to collaborate on a solution.

hujn said...

We have disabled blog comments while we resolve this issue with Etsy.