Friday, July 9, 2010

Policy for Personal Photos and Roleplay

UPDATE: Many of you have written in asking for clarification around the use of sitemodels on Polyvore. It is OK to use sitemodels as long as they are over the age of 13 and you have permission to use their photos. Also, please make sure any roleplays you participate in adhere to our community guidelines.

We want Polyvore to be a fun and safe environment for everyone, and so we've created a set of Community Guidelines to help explain what's acceptable on Polyvore and what's not. However, it's come to our attention that some members have been clipping personal images of others without permission -- which is a serious violation of our rules. Please take a moment to read our policy in regard to personal photos, items and roleplay on Polyvore:
  • It is NOT OK to upload personal photos of other people to Polyvore without explicit permission. For example, clipping someone else's personal photo from a social networking site without consent is not acceptable.
  • It is especially NOT OK to clip photos of babies and children to Polyvore. Since you must be at least 13 years old in order to be a Polyvore member, uploading pictures of anyone under the age of 13 is not allowed.
  • It is NOT OK to create or partake in roleplays that have to do with family life or adoption. Many people do not want their photos being used even for fictional stories. As a rule of thumb, always be mindful of other people's feelings, property and privacy.
  • There is no such thing as 'private items.' Any images you clip to Polyvore are accessible to everyone in the community. So please think twice about any photos you upload to the site as they can be used by anyone in the community.
We will be taking a more aggressive role in monitoring roleplay behavior and will suspend accounts that do not comply with Polyvore's guidelines. We'd really hate for that to happen, so if you have sets that contain personal photos or images you think shouldn't be on the site, please remove them now.

48 comments:

bea. said...

"There is no such thing as 'private items.' Any images you clip to Polyvore are accessible to everyone in the community. So please think twice about any photos you upload to the site as they can be used by anyone in the community."

Hear that ladies? ~<3DoN't UsE pLZz :)!!!~1!!! just won't cut it anymore.

Anonymous said...

thank you! :) especially for the part about no images being private ;)

Anonymous said...

How do you know if we have consent or not? (just wondering)

Kaitlin said...

So, are we allowed to use Sitemodels that know they are sitemodels and don't mind?

Kristyn Meyer said...

So, like if I had permission for my aunt to use my cousin as a baby sitemodel for myself. it wouldn't be okay.

Samantha said...

What about photos of yourself?? are we allowed to use those?? If we are just making a set that is NOT a rolelplay, like a simple fashion set, and have a sitemodel can we keep them??

Anonymous said...

Wow. Really?
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Anonymous said...

Are baby models or actor/actresses not aloud? For example, when you search for baby clothes theres sometimes babies/young children modeling the outfit. Or baby and Young Children actor/actresses like Mia Talerico and G. Hannelious

Anonymous said...

Dear Polyvore,
When you say sitemodels, do you mean actors and actresses as well?
Or the pictures of people that have been credited to be put up?
Just could you give a little bit more detail?
Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Polyvore please don't do this to us! Does this mean we can't use SiteModels anymore? Oh no :( That will RUIN this website for most of us!

Anonymous said...

Dear polyvore staff and community, or to whom it may concern,
I have recently read your blog about Not using other people's personal pictures on polyvore. I disagree with this rule. The people whose pictures are up on this site, are SITE MODELS which are girls who take pictures of themselves for different websites to use. Im sure no one of the polyvore community clips pictures of girls that are not sitemodels. For this reason, a lot of the members of polyvore disagree with this new rule. Also, many girls make sets with "layouts". Examples are layered, mosaic, billboard, etc. Right now, a popular layout that is being used is the layout with a "site model" in it. Therefore, many people feel that this new rule is limiting their creative abilities in set making by not allowing them to use that layout in their set making. Is this what polyvore is about? To me polyvore is a great haven for people to express themselves in creative ways, so why would you want to limit the amount of creative-ness that is put into set making? Also, many people have a TON of sets with "site models" with a TON of faves, that they are proud of. So making them delete those sets would be devastating, like throwing one of your awards in the trash. Im sorry polyvore, I know you are only trying to make the community a better place, but I do not agree with this rule, and I hope that you take part of my letter into perspective and re-think this rule. Thank you for your time and everything you do for the better of polyvore.
Your Poly-pal,
Noemi aka member -MiMi[LovesYou:]♥

KATHRYN said...

Okay I have Deleted every Set The was but to delete them from my items from my Items might a lot more time.

Anonymous said...

Polyvore, thank you so much for making a change for the betterment of the members. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

a polyvore user said...

hmm well i think that if people have taken pictures of themselves and put them on the internet, it isnt fair to ban them. so many people use sitemodels it would be terrible if their sets would be deleted. on roleplays, im slightly confused. why you are taking action against roleplays, i do not know...

Anonymous said...

I disagree with the polyvore team.

Anonymous said...

Wow, I find that odd and un-fair.
Most things people post on this website are site models, who have their pictures all over the internet. And pictures of children are either posted by the family or clipped from websites that post pictures of children. So really this policy makes no sense what so ever.

Anonymous said...

how do we remove photos?

Anonymous said...

wait, so does this mean that all of our sets with site models under 13 are going to be deleted or the pictures won't show up?

Anonymous said...

Name: Emma on Jul 11, 2010
Comments: why is it such a big deal if we roleplay or not? is there a special rule saying we can't? its boring mostly if we cant roleplay. then everyones just into favs. i love roleplaying, polyvore can be BS. Because then its only a competition of popularity and we get enough of that in real life. roleplay lets us express ourselves. Just in a different way. Please don't take it away. So many people will be upset.

Listen to this ^ Thats how we express ourselves .
fashion = competition

Kris said...

I have a question about the "private items," though. If you had to clip a set and therefore making it an item, it is still considered stealing a set if someone uses it without your permission, isn't it?

The 50 item limit makes it hard to complete eyeshadow sets and such, which is why I ask. I don't like it when I have to clip a set and someone else uses my unfinished work for their own use.

Meg said...

I get that you are trying to make it safe but please don't delete us if we have baby pictures! I used some in my first sets before I even knew the rules! Its not fair to delete us without giving us a chance! All we did was have baby pictures for fun. We won't use them anymore just please don't delete us for sets that were made a while ago!

Delaney said...

I think that uploading other people's images is wrong but I uploaded pictures of me and you deleted them so I couldn't use them.

Anonymous said...

No offence that this is dumb....

Anonymous said...

I hope u guys know that u will lose alot of memeber's,Site Views and ur ratings will go down. Just letting yall know

Anonymous said...

So does this mean we can't use pictures that are already on there in our sets? Because i use sitemodel pictures in my sets (i dont roleplay OR claim them as me OR upload them, i just use whatevers on here).

Anonymous said...

I have reported pictures and sets that violate these rules multiple times, and polyvore has neither responded nor taken down these pictues and items yet!!! Please do so, polyvore!!!!!

Anonymous said...

The reason why Polyvore is taking this action is because of this Facebook group: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/event.php?eid=110003205716014&ref=ts .

Polyvore wasn't meant to be roleplayed on or to share photos, anyway. It's always been meant for fashion.

Anonymous said...

I am a photographer and mother, and found my images on this site. I never knew such a site existed. Putting a child's pictures on my blog or web site does not make them fair game for ANYONE to upload and "use" on this site for role playing. I for one, think that this rule that you cannot have photos of ANYONE under 13 is a very good and very necessary rule (whether or not they supposedly give you consent). And I will tell you that you all better be careful of what you do on here, because people are now watching! If you all continue to break the rules, you will be turned in, and you may have your accounts deleted...end of story.

Anonymous said...

So roleplays like fan fictions aren't allowed? Or is it just the whole family thing? Could we do roleplays and fan fictions of famous people because many of us do it on Nick Jonas and to take that away is just wrong. I love polyvore. But what about sitemodels that we get from other sites where the people posted it up for EVERYONE to see?

Anonymous said...

WTF?!?! I was 11 when I joined Polyvore! There are like 6 year olds on here! That MUST be new!

A. said...

Dearest Polyvore modders/people,

I attended a Teen CSI class last week and a man who does digital evidence was there. One thing he said about putting pictures on the Internet was they were GONE. You could not control where it went or what was done with it.
If people have problems with people using their pictures, they shouldn't put them up and then yell at others for using them.
And taking the pictures down won't work. If it's on the Internet for even a second, it stays there. It will not go away. It is there for forever.
If parents don't want their kids' pictures being used, they shouldn't put them on the web. If you do not want something used/abused/whatever, do not let the masses at it. Simple.

Thank you,
Survive

Anonymous said...

So? I was roleplaying a child. I clipped the pictures. The kid was my brother. How do you know if we have consent or not? My mom gave me consent to put his pictures on the internet as long as I was safe! Errgh.

Anonymous said...

this is so annoying. WE LOVE USING SITEMODELS. ugh thanx a lot.

Anonymous said...

Seriously happy about this.
All the drama about images pissed me off. Everytime you log on theres a new person whining over how someone took their set as if it was the END of the WORLD and not just silly internet attention-wanting.

And no more creepy baby roleplays! (well, hopefully less anyways) yay!

(If ya miss your sitemodels ya mighht want to try real models. Just sayin.)

Jenny said...

I am a bit dissapointed about this rule. Many people on Polyvore have made groups where you can act as a imagenairy character called roleplay groups. In order to enjoy these groups you will have to use a sitemodel picture so other people can see what the person that is being played looks like. If Polyvore seltes all the sitemodel pictures it will not be as fun anymore. Many people have already joined alot of roleplay groups and really enjoy doing so. Roleplaying is one of my favorite parts or Polyvore. And sitemodels are there to be used in sets and stories like these. Why else would some people take pictures of themselves and put them on the web for anybody to use. Many people also use sitemodels in other places for example their sets. Making sets is more fun when it has a picture in it of course. A lot of sets have pictures in them. And since one of the most important things in the world are humans, polyvorians use pictures of humans (sitemodels) in their sets. Sitemodel pictures are there to be used. If someone doesn't want their pictures to be used freely, they would not put them online. It's as easy as that. Thank you!

-Jenny

Camille said...

I do agree with not clipping people that are under 13, but how do you know that we do not have permission to post photos of the sitemodels we do post? I run a little sitemodel provider account, and I get permission for every person I post. How could I prove that to you? I know that other accounts like the one I have do not get permission from the people they post, but I DO, and it seems a bit unfair that I could be flagged and deleted because someone believes that I don't have permission.

Anonymous said...

Alright, I am somewhat confused by this statement. Could you please shed a little more light on the subject? You asked us to remove all sitemodel pictures we have, I have uploaded 3 pictures of myself to Blogspot, then I clipped them to Polyvore, so I thought that deleting the post would get the pictures gone here as well. It didn't. So how are we supposed to delete them when the site won't allow it?

Thank you for clearing it up now, but I need a little more clarifying.

Anna Gucci said...

Okay polyvore I love you but I think at least some items need to be private okay you could sue people for using your real pictures without asking, and also the 13 and up rule for pics is not right either some of the kids for role play are famous we should be able to use them it's not right for you to take our privilege's away and the people who do fashion sets get nothing taken away. I bet these rules are making people leave oh and it shouldn't matter who are site models are if we use famous people they'll be know then people can take our pictures I asked my site model if I could use her pictures and I don't care if you don't believe me you really need to stop enforcing the rules so much by deleting we're not doing anything illegal okay! thank you have a wonderful day.

Presley Renee said...

I'm all for these new rules besides some points that worry me, and others.
For one: A lot of members on Polyvore like making sets with sitemodels in them! So if we can't use a sitemodel (mine are ALL over 13) then our creativity and sets are ruined.
Two: Most people use sitemodels who actually WANT to be used. Almost all sitemodels put their pictures all over the internet to be used.
Three: Can we not post pictures of ourselves now either? People, like myself, like putting pictures of ourselves (RL pics) for others to use.

I'm just not sure if banning pictures is a good and fair idea.
I personally NEED sitemodels for my sets :/

Anonymous said...

Okay so I'm confused. You said that using pictures of people under 13 aren't aloud yet I flag the sets with the underage kids and you don't take them down!?! Please explain.

Anonymous said...

I think the private items rule is unfair. Some people on polyvore create their own icons or sets throug and editor program and then upload it to polyvore. That is theirs alone. They made it. If someone uses it the least they should do is give a little shout out saying that they made the picture. Its actually plagarism, in a picture/set form instead of words. And with that rule you, polyvore team, are allowing and even encouraging it. So please rethink that rule and maybe reword it differently. Thank you.

Ketutar said...

Ok, everyone. Polyvore is a legal business and MUST FOLLOW THE LAWS.

Polyvore MUST FOLLOW THE COPYRIGHT LAW.

Polyvore MUST FOLLOW THE LAWS CONCERNING PRIVACY.

They are not just putting obstacles on the way of people's creativity. It is ILLEGAL to use photos and artwork without permission from the person who made the art or took the photo. If it is a photo of a real human being, you need to have that person's permission too. The fact that the picture is online doesn't make it "free for all to use".

If you are 13 or just a couple of years older, the law won't be as hard on you as it is to us older people, but it will show no mercy, understanding or lenience to Polyvore.

IF YOU BREAK THE LAW, POLYVORE WILL PAY.

This means, if you clip to Polyvore pictures of people without they knowing of it and having given you their permission or if they are younger than 13, it might end up with POLYVORE FORCED TO CLOSE DOWN, and EVERYONE would loose this wonderful venue.

You really need to understand this and stop acting as if someone was personally attacking you and your "creativity". That is not the question here.

Ketutar said...

"If you had to clip a set and therefore making it an item, it is still considered stealing a set if someone uses it without your permission, isn't it?"

No, it's not.
You give your permission for everyone to use your "artwork" freely in their sets when you upload it to Polyvore.

"you, polyvore team, are allowing and even encouraging plagiarism"

No.
Because by clipping your images to Polyvore you give people permission to use them as they wish in their sets.
If you do not give your permission, you do not use the service.
If you use the service, people using your items are not stealing or plagiarizing anything.

Ketutar said...

"If people have problems with people using their pictures, they shouldn't put them up and then yell at others for using them."

There is also something called common sense and courtesy. You treat others as you would like them to treat you. This doesn't mean "but I have nothing against people using my photos", but "if I have asked you not to do something, it's wrong of you to do that."

If you check it, most people have put very clearly in their blogs and galleries the notion that the images in the blog/gallery are NOT public property and MAY NOT be used without permission.

Ketutar said...

So, you were 11 when you joined Polyvore? Then you lied and cheated your way in.

Have anyone of you actually read the terms of service?

The terms you promised to have read and understood when you created your profile?

That box isn't just something you cross and get done with. It is a legally binding agreement.

One of the first lines of the terms of Service, bolded, is "By registering with Polyvore, you represent that you are at least 13 years old."

Anonymous said...

I think that people should be private role playing anyway. Especially if they are underage!

Anonymous said...

I meant to say they should not be doing it. Anyway isnot this suppose to be a fashion website. No an erotic storyline plot with minors and stranger. Sounds stupid and slutty!

Ava Donza said...

Thank you! I really hate it when people say "don't use this picture" when I have every right to. Seriously, if you put it on a social site, you can't just not tell people to use it! Why else would you upload it?